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The other reason I believe the online job market has failed has to do with the people behind the scenes reviewing a response to a listing: the Human Resource department. I have yet to find a company with a good HR department. They're similar to that recruiter in the video: they just don't understand. And these are the people on the first line of response review which means your chances of getting your resume in the hands of the hiring manager is a complete roll of the dice.
The current online job market has done nothing more than take the old fashioned printed job listing and put it to the web. That is soooooo Web 1.0.
I may have to relocate in the near future and I already have two offers in the area I am looking to move.
Things were getting bad, until 2am on a Wednesday when I came across a job post that was obviously written by someone who loved their company and wanted a good person to join their team. The post was about three pages long.
I applied (along with about 100 other people) and ended up getting the job. However, I waded through six thousand tons of crap to get that one good listing.
#1 They provide tools which better equip companies to identify top candidates (internal or external).
#2 The portals (at least with Vurv) are completely customizable allowing the company to truly express their personality in the layout and design.
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Free or not, job boards simply do not work.
Surely technology is good enough now to deliver a solution that can simply match the right people to the right openings without anyone having to post a wanted ad, search for jobs, or waste any time.
Most of the new generation ‘recruiting’ website we see today, seem to be designed as a popular online ‘trendy’ destination to capture lots of people, and then they try and ‘shoehorn’ recruiting in around them.
Lets face it, the problem of recruiting will only be resolved when someone first builds a solution to attack the problem or recruiting itself. Think in terms of both the job seekers and the employers, and resolve their recruiting problems.
So my job is simple:
1) To provide a way for working people to anonymously keep an eye out for their ideal job offer
2) To implement a technology that objectively measures every candidate equally, globally, for every search, and only connects both parties when there is a high level of mutual interest
3) To make this technology available to every employer, and make it so every employer can access, use and benefit from it to perform knowledgeable, fair and good recruits, without training or expertise
4) To change recruitment globally
QuietAgent.com
A) The Job Seeker sets their ideal job offer and enters a few basic details
B) The job seeker remains totally anonymous
C) The employer picks from thousands of search templates, or creates their own search criteria
D) The search returns a shortlist of anonymous people who are good matches for the job. It never shortlists a job seeker unless they would consider working for the employer
E) The employer invites one or more anonymous job seekers to talk
F) The employer pays a small fee for the job seekers that accepts their invite
There is a lot more to it in the background, but essentially, in this world of Web 2.0 and what we can now do with technology; there is no need for a job classified, a job board or a job search. Surly two parties can simply state what they desire, and be instantly connected if both the party’s needs are met.
Cheers,
Jason Kerr
CEO
QuietAgent.com
Wanna be in my movie?
Personally, I think that all of the online job boards that have popped up all over the internet have created an entirely new market for staffing agencies. I think the best idea for a company looking for potential candidates would simply be on their web site in the "careers" section. This way people who are already interested in their products can potentially work for those very same companies.
Anyhow, great article, and again I couldn't agree more.
Hopefully some employers out in San Francisco / Palo Alto come across my comment and feel like giving me a glance over :D
My resume can be found on my web site http://ChrisLLorca.com/resume
Thanks for the great read!
Chris
I literally spent every waking hour for 72 hours straight sifting through page after page of job opportunities, writing a personalized cover letter to each and every single one of them. After my eyes dried out I would finally pass out. My fiance said I woke her several times because I was literally typing in my sleep.
Oh yeah, and Yahoo!Hot Jobs has 45 pages of Google/Yahoo! job postings before you get to any other companies... and they add about 1000 jobs a day, which is nice, but it would be better if they would read my resume and maybe call once in a while. :D
-Chris
I've been applying for contract jobs online for 7 years now, and I have never secured a gig that way. I still get my jobs from people I know, or people who know of me. Good luck, jobseekers!
Technology people love to try to use technology to solve problems - but not all of them can be solved that way. Personal networks are still the way most people get hired.
The applicant screening programs many companies use are an attempt to cut down on the number of unqualified resumes they get. There is a real problem there, but I believe these programs are counter-productive since many of the more qualified candidates will not bother jumping through the hoops and also because the applicant screening program may actually filter out qualified candidates.
I would be interested in any ideas anyone might have for what a job board could do to improve the situation. Obviously, less advertising both on the web and via email would be one of them. I see the point of that, but you also have to remember that job boards are in business to make money, and that advertising may be a vital part of their income. That said, I think there needs to be a balance between the usability of the site for users and the potential income generated by advertising. For us, that means no pop-ups and no email about third-party products or services. However, we do have Google ads and ads for other services on our site.
If there are any firebreathing software developers or Web designs in San Diego, Fort Collins or Denver interested in joining the cause, please send your resume and favorite quote to mbannen@yahoo.com (I'll respond with my corporate email account).
However, I want to add that except for maybe web startups that exist in a utopia, video job postings and similar methods aren't really going to work. I am a headhunter, and professional recruiters (both internal corporate types and headhunters) can post upwards of dozens of jobs per day, and also need to filter resumés/CVs, contact applicants, screen and interview, negotiate, etc. Few of them would have the time or equipment resources to make video job postings.
Having said that, I'm all for methods that allow job seekers and hiring managers to connect more quickly. In today's working world, professional third-party recruiters are an effective recruitment solution, but I would never stand in the way of progress in this area. If my field becomes obsolete, I will absolutely move on.
For the small businesses out there, PowerHires offers powerful, easy to use applicant tracking so that you you don't have to deal with the resume spam mentioned above and can easily prescreen applicants.
http://www.powerhires.com/solutions.php?s=insti...
And we make it easy to send those rejection notices so that your candidates know where they stand. It might seem odd, but they'll thank you for the rejection.
http://www.pcworkathome.net
Hmmm. I think someone needs to bring some hard core science/technology to the problem...
An Everquest job market eh? Well I imagine companies will get on Second Life eventually and hold virtual job fairs...
I don't think it's a technology issue per se, I think it's an issue of the way people think. We've been hiring and getting hired the same way for so long, no one has stepped up and changed that.
I know there are companies that work on matching people with employers through technology but at the end of the day don't we hire people because they're a good fit, after we have a couple conversations with them? (or at least, shouldn't we do it that way?)
The truly successful people are team players, driven by the desire for excellence, not by their ego or by the desire just be great...but to be of genuine value. Those that are driven by ego are pompous and become a cancer. 80% of the people looking for a job, generally have interpersonal skill problems...which means they haven't done the necessary internal excavation.
The 20% that are looking are generally good talent in the wrong organization, on other words a bad fit. The truth is great talent isn't looking.
Large search firms business models restrict their profitability goals from ever rendering excellent service....nor do they really know how! They call and say to the candidate, "hi, I have a job at so and so..." I know, they have called me years ago. That's not recruiting. That's stupidity.
Great employees are genuine and authentic in their generosity of human spirit. They are exceedingly passionate in their pursuit of excellence. That’s the true secret of greatness.
Recruiters are taking 20% and up for placement and they hardly do anything for that money other than clog the system. Meanwhile employers are starving for employees but don't want to pay that silly premium. I have had placement firms send me resumes for developers with only 2 years professional experience asking for over 60 bucks an hour. I told them to get off the crack pipe, learn how to do their job, and find me real candidates.
But the reality of it is that, as this post points out, the employers have probably less of a clue about the hiring process than the candidates. But, since they're the ones with the money, we let that side of the equation atrophy.
I wholeheartedly agree with all of the above (except for part of #5 - there are plenty of great workers who have no idea how to find a job if they get surprised by a layoff).
The real question is what can really be done to fix the situation? Most employers don't *want* to change, regardless of how much money it's costing them.
There is a slow, below-the-surface revolution going on in the employment space right now. I'm waiting for the company that pops out with something that revolutionizes everything.
It hasn't happened yet (mainly because people are still thinking too much about the old model), but it will.
It's an exciting (and, perhaps, scary) time to be in the employment field!
Dan
Let's hope Standout Jobs is the company you're looking for!
I think employers will change once they're given great alternatives to what they're doing - stuff that's interesting, effective, fun and low cost vs. reward.
You ever use the Vurv product? Obviously not, on the outside talk it up good and the marketing is good but it is a waste of alot of time and alot of money from my experience. It is so hard to use you have to pay to get trained and pay more to upgrade and pay even more to convert your data into the system and pay to get it out if you want out. Do yourself a favor and stick with open web based systems.
I've used as a candidate. I believe that niche job boards can provide a more tailored service - consequently better on helping you finding a real potential job.
What's your take on that aspect of the recruiting business?
People cannot be fooled so easily,they search & screen way better: referrals yield more than twice the number of hires than 40,000 job boards. (careerxroads.com survey)
Still thousands of people do find a job or a new hire through job boards, so they will not go away. The economics will get worse though with job posting becoming a commodity with facebook and Craigs list. Same for resume search. Monster revolutionized the world with thousands of people a day submitting resumes online as of 1999 - but look at facebook et al: 150,000 people a day join social networks, posting a public profile...
I've had the same job for the past 5 years, so fortunately, this hasn't been a problem for a while.
Now I have a good beginning educational background, having finished my Masters in February, and I am learning/catching up on these soft skills.
But I have been unemployed for a very long time too, even with the temporary agencies.
I am disenheartened reading most of these comments; it is nice to know that I am not alone.
I can see your point on your first question, especially around here, and would like more specifics on your second.
I am open for constructive suggestions, as mentioned above, I know I have much to learn (don't we all); and when you stop learning is when you really start losing it.
Have a good weekend.
Theresa
Also, most employers, HR departments and candidates lack the skills to accurately describe what they want, so everything sort of runs together and differentiation is hopelessly missing.
I think this video was an excellent attempt at trying to stand out. But only because I actually watched it. This approach will work for a while, but once everyone is doing it, things will be worse than they were before.
Main reason is you can't quickly scan through audio and video, so if they don't get indexed accurately, no one will ever listen or view them.
The indexing will require folks to do what they can't do anyway, which is describe what they want, so we're back to where we started.
As well, I don't want candidates "quickly scanning" through anything - that's what leads to them randomly applying for jobs that might be fits, without really evaluating whether they want to work at that company. I want candidates taking the time to look into a company, and decide whether that company has done enough to attract them...
I've never heard of anyone getting a job in this fashion.
I myself am seeking my last career as Iam 53,and I have found nothing but smoke and mirrors on these so called job search sites.
all the best
Employers can search the resume database free of charge and only pay (the **candidate**) upon receiving results from the candidate they contact within 24-hours.
It is our belief that job seekers who post their resumes on a website should be compensated for their time.
Web sites that tie your skills right in to you ronline profile will help agencies find the people faster and more effectively. Social Recruitment offers this and is as much the way forward as video resumes and video Ads will ever be.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
These recruiters are really doing a disservice by scamming the public. Note to recruiters: If you advertise for a position and get a resume from someone doing exactly the same job AND they are a SUMMA CUM LAUDE graduate, RUN don't WALK to the phone and get them in front of your client! You get what you pay for, and this caliber deserves a higher pay rate. It's as simple as that. Want to impress your client ? Send them "top of the class" candidates.
If you can't walk the walk, (i.e. follow through with your posting) don't play games with people by wasting their time !!!
Nicely done video and I think this is a good way to do marketing :)
Maybe I will tweak this idea a little bit and come up with something for our service.
Umm, about the job part.. well, join them or beat them.
www.jobsindubai.com for instance has a different technique all together - you might want to check it out ..